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Woke up ~0130 and couldn't get back to sleep...going to try again in a few minutes.

Probably should have waited until morning to get the news, but like a moron I fired up Cowzilla and scoped out the election results. Meh. As I said in a comment over at [livejournal.com profile] armalitespade's joint, "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." A lot of people are going to get it good and hard for the next 4-8 years...and I expect to enjoy plenty of schadenfreude as the folk dazzled by The Lightworker realize how much they're going to pay for their refusal to see the new President for what he is. It ain't all about the taxes, either.

People who think Governor Palin is going to fade back into some kind of Northern Sun twilight zone are kidding themselves. Give her four years to assemble a campaign and she'll have a good shot at the '08 nomination.

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Date: 2008-11-05 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] materia-indigo.livejournal.com
Do you really want to see other people suffer some kind of misfortune just because they supported a different candidate?

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Date: 2008-11-05 06:50 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-11-05 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
What I want is irrelevant. We're all going to be spending 4-8 years in the barrel. I've paid attention to what the Democrats in Congress have been saying about their priorities, and the whole thing reminds me of 1976-1980 all over again, except Jimmy Carter actually disagreed with his allies in Congress now and then. I don't see Obama doing that; he has always been a go-along, get-along member of the Daley machine, and has never crossed the aisle to go against his party.

The only people who are going to be largely unaffected by the policies of the Obama Administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress are the extremely rich (Buffett, Soros, et al) who can afford more lawyers and accountants than the rest of us, and the extremely poor, who are going to have a brief improvement in their standard of living before inflation claws back the value from their "tax cuts".

Short version: I've seen this before. It doesn't work. Welcome to the suck.
Edited Date: 2008-11-05 09:51 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-11-06 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
People who think Governor Palin is going to fade back into some kind of Northern Sun twilight zone are kidding themselves. Give her four years to assemble a campaign and she'll have a good shot at the '08 nomination.

Really?

Really?

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Date: 2008-11-06 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
*shrug*
I'll give that clip a listen when I get home from work, but I really doubt it'll change my mind. Let's face it - Palin was pretty much the only reason a lot of conservatives got off the couch and pulled the lever for Crazy Uncle John, when you consider that he only got something like 35% of the primary vote. So, yeah - if she wants a shot at the top slot in 2008, she'll have a lot of folks lining up to help carry the spears.
Edited Date: 2008-11-06 02:53 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-11-06 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
Well, I hope the Repubs bring someone else interesting that I'd be willing to vote for...like 2000 John McCain.

You seriously don't think we can do a million times better than her? Someone that will really give Obama a run for his money?

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Date: 2008-11-06 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
Did you miss the post above this? Cheb and I went a few rounds regarding McCain's failure to mobilize the base, which is no surprise considering he spent the last eight years sticking his thumb in their eye at every opportunity. For every moderate/independent like you that McCain allegedly attracted (and judging from the polls, I don't think he even did that well) six or seven conservatives stayed home and didn't lift a finger for him.

This is part of the reason the dextrosphere is turning on pundits like Brooks, Noonan, Will, MacDonald, etc. with a vengeance - McCain was their candidate, and when the going got tough, they bailed.

I think there are other possibilities in 2008 - Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Pawlenty, maybe Rick Perry of Texas, but none of them have Palin's charisma.

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Date: 2008-11-06 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
I'd rather have smarts and a strong moral compass than charisma. Obama's got all three (you might disagree on the direction of that compass), he'll be tough to beat unless the country takes a nosedive.

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Date: 2008-11-06 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
After reading The Best and the Brightest and seeing other examples of "smarts" in high office, I'm not so impressed by what the media thinks is smart.

Nothing I have heard from Obama or the Congressional Democrats makes me think the next four years are going to be good for the economy.

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Date: 2008-11-06 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
Well, I guess we'll see.

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Date: 2008-11-06 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
Yup. Take a gander at the stock market: welcome to the suck.

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Date: 2008-11-06 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
Of course, it was in such great shape before.

I'm willing to wait until he and the new Congress are in power for a few weeks before I start being too frightened.

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Date: 2008-11-06 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
Agreed that it's been headed into the crapper since the housing slump became the credit crunch, but usually there's a post-election boomlet. Today was unpleasantly unique, and I can't help thinking all the talk about expropriating peoples' 401k accounts for the benefit of Social Security didn't help.

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Date: 2008-11-06 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
Oh, and I read all your posts, but I don't generally go back and read the comments therein, especially when I'm not involved in them.

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Date: 2008-11-06 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
Perfectly understandable.

Oh, this.

Date: 2008-11-06 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
This clip has kicked up quite a fuss in the GOP, and inspired a number of prominent bloggers in the dextrosphere to form a posse to hunt down the people responsible for this crap. Disloyalty like this ("It wasn't our fault we lost, it was that stupid Caribou Barbie!") deserves to be punished, and those people are never going to work for a successful GOP candidate again.

Re: Oh, this.

Date: 2008-11-07 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 433.livejournal.com
Hm.

And I wish that these people would have been this forthcoming during the campaign. Loyalty to someone you don't believe is fit to head for loyalty's sake is not something I want from any party.

Re: Oh, this.

Date: 2008-11-07 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wombat-socho.livejournal.com
It's sheer opportunism. When it looked like McCain had a shot, they didn't say anything, but now that they're being accused -and rightly so!- for having run a crappy campaign, they're looking for a scapegoat. They're going to get burned for this, though, and they deserve it.
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